Is there nothing in that imbecilic claptrap that you find the least ridiculous or fanciful or downright loony?
MODERATE leadership of Iran? Are those the mullahs who only want to destroy Israel and not wipe them off the map as well? "Beating back the conservative mullahs..."
You really are a knee jerk idiot, Drongo. Your comments are shallow, inane - I rarely read them, they are so predictably banal.Comment Posted By Rick Moran On 31.03.2007 @ 17:55
That's a good and fair question, Greg.
I was ready to "throw in the towel" last October, so despairing I was of Bush ever facing up to the reality of what was going on in Iraq. And I don't think it any accident that once Rummy was gone, things that should have been done a year or even two years ago began to happen.
I don't know if it's too late to do much good. I believe that we should try. We owe it to our dead and wounded as well as the Iraqi people. It is we after all who have caused them such great pain - largely as a result of our mistakes and blunders the first three years of the war. If this surge can give Maliki some breathing room to enact some reforms (while giving Iraqi security forces some much needed leavening) then it will have been worth it.
BTW - I think even Republicans will start agitating for withdrawal by early next year. So I'd say we have about 9 months to improve the situation as much as we can before we start withdrawing the troops.Comment Posted By Rick Moran On 30.03.2007 @ 08:26
This caes might be a little different. Military people in the aggregate may be expected to take risks but I daresay the British press has humanized the hostages now to the point where the people don't see them as sailors but as the neighbor's kid.
In that respect, if - and that's a very speculative if - the Iranians were to use them as human shields, it would certainly make Blair think twice about launching an attack.Comment Posted By Rick Moran On 29.03.2007 @ 10:47
I think the official response has been right on target. I was more concerned with the lack of response by the British people - "curious" as you said but symptomatic of a larger problem I outline in the post.Comment Posted By Rick Moran On 29.03.2007 @ 09:04
Greg, you slay me. You absolutely kill me.
Facilitating the killing of Americans by assisting radical Shias with getting weapons and IED's is not exactly the same thing as sight seeing or visiting one of the Shia shrines there.
Mohammed Atta was in the US legally. So were most of the 9/11 hijackers. By your reasoning, even if we caught them we had no business holding them.
Keep trying...Comment Posted By Rick Moran On 29.03.2007 @ 08:27
Don't you read anything? The Brits proved beyond all doubt that they were 1.7 miles inside IRAQI waters.
The Brit numbers (lat/long) WERE CONFIRMED BY THE IRANIANS! That is - until they realized that those numbers meant that they had taken the sailors illegally. THEN THE IRANIANS ACTUALLY CHANGED THE NUMBERS THEY HAD PUT OUT JUST HOURS PREVIOUSLY!
For christsake! Apologizing for Democrats is one thing. Apologizing for the Iranian thugs is quite another.
Don't let your knee hit you in the chin when you jerk it next time in your haste to defend the indefensible.Comment Posted By Rick Moran On 28.03.2007 @ 15:43
No stream of consciousness baloney here. I'd be embarrassed to put that crap on my site.
That may be possibly the worst writing I have encountered on the internet. Incoherence, hyperbole beyond belief, half truths, untruths, fantasy - an insult to intelligent discourse.Comment Posted By Rick Moran On 28.03.2007 @ 17:37
I'm surprised. I thought there would be a little too much "red meat" in there for someone as balanced and objective as you.
Plus, I thought you might object to the "victory-defeat" part of the post. I personally think that we have to change our definition of "victory" but that a satisfactory outcome in Iraq is still possible. Not ideal. Not a bed of roses. Just "satisfactory" - as in having done all that we can and then removing the bulk of our forces (leaving behind trainers and advisors.
I respect your opinions which is why I was pleased that you liked the post.Comment Posted By Rick Moran On 28.03.2007 @ 10:08
I think what I've said in the past that we have to redefine what victory means - something many on the right have refused to do. And, of course, I've made the point many times that no matter what happens in Iraq, the left, the media, and most of the world will chalk it up as a defeat for the United States.
Having said that, I think that there is still hope for a decent outcome in Iraq. I think commenters like Drongo wildly exaggerate the influence of Iran - even on the SCIRI and Badr Organization. Iran is playing on the fringes of Iraqi politics but their influence is largely rejected by most mainstream Shias. After all, less than 20 years have elapsed since the Iranians killed almost a million Iraqis in the war.
The moves to engage Iran by Maliki have more to do with common sense than brotherhood. Iran is a regional powerhouse. Iraq is currently the 98lb weakling. They really have little choice but to establish friendly relations with a powerful neighbor - one who also has not forgotten the war.
But the major point still stands - that there can be a tremendous improvement in security which absolutely must lead to political changes or, as you suggest, we will abandon Maliki and his Shia nationalists to their fate.
And I think that timetables are self defeating by definition - clearly a political ploy by the Democrats to place the onus of defeat on Bush and the Republicans. This would seem to suggest that while many say that victory and defeat have no meaning with regards to Iraq, the Democrats almost surely believe they do. Otherwise, they wouldn't be trying so hard to bring about a defeat they can blame Republicans for in 2008.Comment Posted By Rick Moran On 28.03.2007 @ 08:46
Convoluted but surprisingly logical. I like it.Comment Posted By Rick Moran On 29.03.2007 @ 18:02
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