So what do we DO? All you can do is make childish references to "grown ups" and spilled milk.
If you are talking about withdrawing 160,000 troops in 6 months you are an idiot. That is not a policy option. It is surrender.
I challenged my critics to come up with a better option for withdrawal than what we are doing now. The only thing I see is get out now as quickly as possible. Is that it? Is that the best you've got?
And you call me a child?Comment Posted By Rick Moran On 19.09.2007 @ 17:15
The only point I try to make - and I find it amusing that the commenter above actually believes I have anything but contempt for Bush at this point - is that the Democrats plan is wrong, wrong, wrong. The surge, for whatever its worth, has brough marginal improvements.
Surely people must see that leaving Iraq a bloody disaster would be, in its purest and simplest formulation, a huge blow to our national interests and with untold consequences for the Middle east.
Shouldn't we do everything we can to avoid it? All I get from Democrats is "nothing has changed" or "that's what you said two years ago." That is the biggest bullshit I've ever heard. It's talking points, not a policy option. Come up with a way to leave Iraq with the least damage to our interests and I'll support it.
Right now, like it or not (and I don't like it much), we are trapped and there is little we can do except keep going, making incremental improvements in security while pushing all sides to a political solution.
Putting a hard timeline on our departure is nothing short of surrender. Period. And pretending otherwise won't make it so. The pressure not to redeploy but to withdraw will be intense once the bloodbath starts - probably irresistable. Unless we can at least effect a handover to a barely competent security force, there will be no chance - zero - for Iraq to avoid catastrophe. We owe our own dead the tens of thousands dead Iraqis at least that much.Comment Posted By Rick Moran On 19.09.2007 @ 16:44
Wrong. In November 2005, the expectation was there would be 10 brigades ready to carry out operations on their own by the end of 2007. They are going to miss that goal but not by much.
Get your facts right.Comment Posted By Rick Moran On 19.09.2007 @ 16:28
I have little respect for Bush and less respect for those who refuse to see that there is more than one way to leave Iraq.
The Democrats way is outright surrender. There are alternatives that may take 18-24 months longer that would leave behind a vastly improved situation - and that's even if the surge isn't going to do everything it's supposed to.
In two years, there will be 15-20 competently trained Iraqi brigades that would be able to take over almost all the security functions we are perfoming now.
We will be out of Iraq. We are leaving without "victory" but short of "unmitigated disaster." If that's too complicated for you to understand, tough.Comment Posted By Rick Moran On 19.09.2007 @ 16:22
Okay, let me get this straight.
No insulting from behind a keyboard...
BWA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!Comment Posted By Rick Moran On 19.09.2007 @ 16:01
I sort of agree with the sentiment but you're dreaming if you think it will play with the voters.
"No blood for oil" resonates very deeply with many people.Comment Posted By Rick Moran On 19.09.2007 @ 12:38
I think you underestimate the intelligence of the American people. Plus the press won't let Republicans get away with any such nonsense.Comment Posted By Rick Moran On 19.09.2007 @ 12:25
Thank you. That's the most coherent thing you've ever written here.Comment Posted By Rick Moran On 19.09.2007 @ 12:12
Are you really ignorant enough to say that there is only one way to leave Iraq, that the only way is the Democrat's way?
What an idiot.
Nowhere in the post do I use the word "victory" which makes me think you never read it in the first place - something you do on a regular basis which only proves you are too stupid to comment here.Comment Posted By Rick Moran On 19.09.2007 @ 09:30
I've seen the same figures you probably have. They assume a continued flood of illegals as well as high birth rates.
They said the same thing about the Irish a hundred years ago and you know what happened? As the economic situation improved for the Irish, the started having far fewer babies. And I think it is pretty well correlated that relatively richer people have fewer children.
As for the illegals, I think it will be stopped one way or another - either on the Mexican side where improving economic conditions will slow it down or on this side where people will eventually rebel and get serious about border security - probably after another terrorist attack.Comment Posted By Rick Moran On 19.09.2007 @ 13:01
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