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9/11 TRUTHERS GUT PUNCHED BY HISTORY CHANNEL
ghost, are you going to address those points, or are you going to pretend you never said them?
Comment Posted By TomB On 24.08.2007 @ 15:49
At best, the arguments about how or why the buildings fell are contentious. That is why an independent commission is required. However, much like the recent documentaries, you and many others insist on leaving out the things that cannot possibly be explained by mere observation of the events.
And with that ghosttown falls back on a favorite truther tactic; Change the subject.
Perhaps that is why the "new" version of Loose Change is giving up on the conrolled explosion of WTC 1&2 and concentrating instead on WTC 7.
Before we go any further ghost, perhaps we can get some admissions from you:
-fire can weaken steel
-there wasn't the time nor the ability to wire both 110 storey buildings properly with demolition charges.
-Marvin Bush was NEVER in charge of security for the WTC.
-There really aren't six allegedly “alive-and-well†9/11 hijackers.
How about you admit you were wrong about those points, and then we continue?
Comment Posted By TomB On 24.08.2007 @ 15:19
People who keep having a go at the so called “truthers†do it for the following set of logical reasons.
No. We "have a go" at truthers becuase they are wrong.
I point again to the example above. The statement was made by one of your fellow travelers that fire cannot weaken steel. That is completely, demonstrably wrong.
Simple.
Now, many of the other points are not as easy to explain. But to someone who has experience with buildings and materials, the points that the truthers are trying to make here are equally wrong.
Comment Posted By TomB On 24.08.2007 @ 12:26
I say it again: WAKE UP oh sleepy one and go do some independent research. It is not easy in this day and age to fool such a vast number of people who are already awake and realise what is going on.
ghosttown, your post is ironic given we've had two of your fellow travelers just deny that fire can melt steel. After Rosie making an ass out of herself and the San Fran bridge collapse, for the "fact-based" to make such an insanely stupid comment is beyond parody.
Comment Posted By TomB On 24.08.2007 @ 11:48
"Frank, an uncontrolled fire alone doesn’t melt steel…"
David, see post 209.
"Engineers said the green steel frame of the I-580 overpass and the bolts holding the frame together began to melt and bend in the intense heat"
Comment Posted By TomB On 24.08.2007 @ 11:35
Thanks Rick but, ummm, shouldn't you be in a boat right about now?
Comment Posted By TomB On 24.08.2007 @ 11:28
Must be a conspiracy. ;-)
Comment Posted By TomB On 24.08.2007 @ 11:17
No, I'm clicking on "post comments"
It seems to only happen when I put html code (I tried a link to that newspaper article) in the post.
Comment Posted By TomB On 24.08.2007 @ 11:16
Sorry for all the replies, my comments keep getting eaten
What’s your evidence of fires capable of weakening steel?
Are you serious?!
"Tank fire destroys portion of MacArthur Maze (4/29)
(04-29) 18:03 PDT OAKLAND -- Huge leaping flames from an exploding gasoline tanker melted the steel underbelly of a highway overpass in the East Bay's MacArthur Maze early this morning, causing it to collapse onto the roadway below and virtually ensuring major traffic problems for weeks to come.
The elevated roadway that fell carried eastbound traffic from the Bay Bridge onto Interstates 580 and 980 and state Highway 24. It draped like a blanket over a roadway below, a connector from southbound I-80 to I-880 that also was severely damaged.
The single-vehicle crash occurred on the lower roadway when the tanker, loaded with 8,600 gallons of unleaded gasoline and heading from a refinery in Benicia to a gas station on Hegenberger Road in Oakland, hit a guardrail at 3:41 a.m.
Engineers said the green steel frame of the I-580 overpass and the bolts holding the frame together began to melt and bend in the intense heat "
Comment Posted By TomB On 24.08.2007 @ 11:02
Sorry for all the posts, my replies are being eaten.
What’s your evidence of fires capable of weakening steel?
Seriously?!
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/04/29/BAGVOPHQU46.DTL
"Huge leaping flames from an exploding gasoline tanker melted the steel underbelly of a highway overpass in the East Bay's MacArthur Maze early this morning, causing it to collapse onto the roadway below and virtually ensuring major traffic problems for weeks to come."
"Engineers said the green steel frame of the I-580 overpass and the bolts holding the frame together began to melt and bend in the intense heat"
Comment Posted By TomB On 24.08.2007 @ 10:59
