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9/11 TRUTHERS GUT PUNCHED BY HISTORY CHANNEL
What’s your evidence of fires capable of weakening steel? Would not 90% or more of the jet fuel burn off in the initial seconds-long fireball?
Can you show your calculations on how you got to 90%? I'd be interested to see some of your assumptions.
Comment Posted By TomB On 24.08.2007 @ 10:56
TomB, no I can’t definitively answer it, but I have some clues: in the days and weeks before 9/11, there were numerous security drills, including an unprecedented “powerdownâ€. Bomb-sniffing dogs were removed. If you’re “security†then you’d have full clearance to go wherever you want.
Have you ever seen a building wire for controlled demolition? Do you know exactly what it takes to get to that point?
Comment Posted By TomB On 24.08.2007 @ 10:53
What’s your evidence of fires capable of weakening steel?
Here ya go, Rosie:
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/04/29/BAGVOPHQU46.DTL
Would not 90% or more of the jet fuel burn off in the initial seconds-long fireball?
How do you get your 90% in seconds number. What are your calculations?
Comment Posted By TomB On 24.08.2007 @ 10:52
The Twin Towers were evacuated for a FULL WEEKEND prior to 9/11
The top half of one of the towers was "powered down" the weekend before (actually from Sat. afternoon to Sunday afternoon). It was not completely evacuated.
Anyway, a normal building implosion takes MONTHS to properly set and wire the explosives.
Try again.
Comment Posted By TomB On 24.08.2007 @ 10:48
Hans, I asked this of another poster, but he never came back. Maybe you can answer it:
How did all these devices come to be planted in all three towers? Who did it and how was this accomplished?
Comment Posted By TomB On 24.08.2007 @ 09:57
Hans, you seem to be confused by static loads vs. dynamic loads.
Just because a certain floor in the building was engineered to support all those floors above it at rest doesn't mean the forces are the same when those floors are in motion. Once those floors started in motion, there was nothing to stop them. As the video plainly shows, when the collapse started, some debris blew out the sides and some went straight down.
Comment Posted By TomB On 23.08.2007 @ 20:40
I think Hans’ image of the structure of the twin towers looks something like this…
LMAO. One of the finest posts ever at DU! If there is anything that encapsulates their thinking well, its that.
The best part is that nobody over there is smart enough to realize how bad it makes them look, so nobody deleted the thread.
Mind. Numbingly. Stupid.
Comment Posted By TomB On 23.08.2007 @ 20:34
Frank, what I find fascinating is that not only did the government rig the 3 towers for demolition, but they went to the troble of setting them up differently:
Colin's fevered mind: "With the two towers they exploded out from the top down. Only WTC7 had implosive and explosive devises."
WHY?!
Comment Posted By TomB On 23.08.2007 @ 18:40
The towers fell due to an unusual method of internal explosions, felling them top down.
What, exactly, does this mean?
With most normal collapse there is a middling at the top to bring the structure inwards then a verical collapse.
middling?
Only WTC7 had implosive and explosive devises.
Could you give an example of both devices as were used that day?
Had 1 and 2 merely collapsed due to structural fatigue as NIST suggests you wouldn’t have debris thrown up and out to the distances recorded.
How far is that?
,- many of whom seem to be still alive according to the BBC,
Heh. Link please?
Exit question: How did all these devices come to be planted in all three towers? Who did it and how was this accomplished?
Comment Posted By TomB On 23.08.2007 @ 16:17
We all should thank Colin.
I think he has framed the truther mindset and methodology perfectly here. He takes an amazingly stupid comment by Alex Jones, and completely ignores the main point of it (Galileo said the Earth revolves around the sun, not that it was flat). Only to obsess over a relatively minor side point on whether house arrest counts as "prison".
Abandoning a position without even a mention and then moving on to another is also common in Moon Hoax believers.
"WTC collapse, fire can't melt steel!!!"
Yes it can.
"WTC 7: Silverstein says 'Pull it'!!!"
We now see why "Loose Change" needs so many "new versions".
Comment Posted By TomB On 23.08.2007 @ 12:10
