Comments Posted By Mick
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BIRTHERS vs. TRUTHERS: WAR OF THE LOONS
Rick,
Madison never heard of Vattel? How dumb are you? Are you that much of an apologist? You are certainly No Conservative.
Emerich de Vattel was a Swiss jurist, whose textbook "The Law of Nations" was highly influential in the period from 1758 to 1900. The Founding Fathers were very familiar with Vattel, who stated "natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens."Ben Franklin wrote of Vattel's book, "It . . has been continually in the hands of the members of our Congress." The librarian at Carpenters Hall reported that Vattel was the primary source read by the delegates of the Continental Congress. Chief Justice John Marshall quoted from Vattel more than from any other author.
Vattel's definition was repeated by the Supreme Court in Minor v. Happersett (1885): "It was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves . . . natural-born citizens."
Furthermore, in U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark (1898) Justice Gray re-affirmed the Minor v. Happersett interpretation: "In Minor v. Happersett, Chief Justice Waite . . . said: "The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that." And he proceeded to resort to the common law as an aid in the construction of this provision."
By the way, Minor v. Happersett and Wong Kim Ark were after the 14th Amendment. Notice how they both say that the definition is not in the Constittution. Well the 14 Amendment was already there, so it's not in there! Notice how Vattel is quoted almost verbatim in Minor? Why don't you do some research since you supposedly have a radio show (which of course I already know that I would never listen to), and a supposedly Conservative Blog. Duh.
For someone who refuses to acknowledge that the sun rises in the east and sets in the west, you certainly are a persistent cuss. Up is not down. Black is never white. And the idea I am an Obama supporter because I can see the nose in front of my face is absurd - as anyone with an ounce of intelligence would know if they read anything I've ever written.
Oh - other obvious things you deny? Obama is the legitimate president of the United States - recognized by the Congress, the state of Hawaii, and about 98% of the American people.
Duh.
ed.
Comment Posted By Mick On 6.08.2009 @ 15:27
On who's authority is born here to 1 parent citizen a Natural Born Citizen? You are just as bad as the WSJ in the spread of Propoganda, AND you don't know what you are talking about. Maybe you should do a little investigation before spreading falsities on your blog.
http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/07/31/wall-street-journal-caught-spreading-false-legal-propaganda-via-james-taranto/
Comment Posted By Mick On 5.08.2009 @ 15:36
How do you not know the real Legal reason that Obama is not a Natural Born Citizen? His father was not a Citizen when Obama 2 was born. Natural Born Citizen are born in the US of 2 Citizen Parents. This is NOT about US Citizenship, it's about Natural Born Citizenship (the requirement to be POTUS) DUH> Are you really that uninformed?
Where in the Constitution does it say both parents have to have been born here? You are mouthing a definition from a treatise published 10 years before the constitution was even written - never seen by Madison or anyone else.
He was born here and born of a parent who was a citizen. That's all the requirement necessary.
Are you really that much of a loon?
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Comment Posted By Mick On 4.08.2009 @ 14:59
IT'S PAST TIME TO INOCULATE CONSERVATISM AGAINST THE BIRTHERS
And just so you know, John McCain (born in Colon, Panama to 2 US Citizen Parents) and Bobby Jindal (born in La. to Indian Immigrant non citizen parents) are NOT Natural Born Citizens either. The investigation of Resolution 511 nand acknowledgement of Jindal as a viable candidate for POTUS are all designed to clear the way for Obama. This is a LEGAL ELIGIBILITY ISSUE Not Conspiracy theory. Natural Born Citizen = Born in the US to 2 US Citizen Parents.
Comment Posted By Mick On 26.07.2009 @ 07:29
You all are TOTALLY MISSING the true LEGAL QUESTION that is not Conspiracy theory. If Obama has admited that his citizenship AT BIRTH was "Governed" (His own words from Fight the Smears) by the British Nationality Act of 1948, how could he be a Natural Born Citizen? Dual Citizens at Birth can NEVER be Natural Born citizens. Natural Born Citizens (the requirement for POTUS and VP set forth in Article 2 Section 1) are those born on US SOIL to 2 CITIZEN PARENTS. The term was only seen at the time of the writing of the Constitution in Vattel's Law of Nations (1763), A Treatise on Natural Law that was a huge inspiration for the document and is a required methodology of International relations as put forth in Article 1 Section 8 clause 10 USC. Obama is using the BC issue to hide the other fact that he has already admitted, He was a British Citizen at birth due to his father's Kenyan Citizenship. Why do you think that Fight the Smears has been scrubbed from the internet? This is the final set up before he springs the BC, but the fact is that he can NEVER be Natural Born due to his Dual Citizenship at Birth. You are all being played, and I will be happy to write a collumn for you on this subject.
Comment Posted By Mick On 26.07.2009 @ 07:22
