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9/11 TRUTHERS GUT PUNCHED BY HISTORY CHANNEL
What's really ironic is that the notion that Columbus "proved that the earth was round" is itself an urban legend. The roundness of the earth was known since the time of Aristotle.
What Columbus did prove, however, was that one could navigate across the globe without getting burnt up in the "torrid zone" or falling off on the "underside" of the earth. (The earth's roundness was clearly understood, but the concept of uniform gravity wasn't.)
Comment Posted By Frank IBC On 23.08.2007 @ 13:29
Several of the Troofers have noted second-hand reports of "molten steel" at the site days/weeks later, and cite this as proof of the "demolition" and or "thermite" scenarios.
There are several problems with these claims:
-In many cases, it is claimed that these quotes come from experts, rather than workmen on the site, who did not necessarily have a scientific background.
Comment Posted By Frank IBC On 23.08.2007 @ 12:58
-The word "steel" is not used in the original quotes, just "metal". Many other metals have lower melting points than steel.
-The word "molten" is used somewhat sloppily - in most cases, it is used to describe metal that is glowing red, but still in a solid rather than a liquid state.
-Troofers make the unwarranted assumption that the materials in the pile of debris could not have continued to become hotter as they burned in the pile of rubble following the collapse.
-Thermite is comprised of iron oxide and aluminum. Troofers make the unwarranted assumption that the presence of iron and aluminum (both used extensively in the towers) is somehow proof of the use of "thermite".
I notice that Colin is still ignoring Alex Brown's idiotic claim that Galileo was persecuted because he said "the earth was round".
And I also wonder if he has even the slightest notion of what actual PRISONS during Galileo's time were like.
Comment Posted By Frank IBC On 23.08.2007 @ 10:50
Suddenly we have him as a mastermind organizing an international, multi-month (or year), nationwide process of false identification, training, surveillance, deep-cover operatives...
Have you also forgotten the first attack on the WTC, in February 1993?
Comment Posted By Frank IBC On 23.08.2007 @ 10:31
One more question for CMM -
How did YOU determine that there was "very little available liquid fuel left over" after the fireball, not enough "to do all it seems to have done"?
YOUR calculations, please?
Comment Posted By Frank IBC On 23.08.2007 @ 10:01
Colin B -
So you have no problem with Alex Jones' claim that "Galileo said that the earth was round"?
Comment Posted By Frank IBC On 23.08.2007 @ 09:57
CMM -
Apparently you've never heard of the Bojinka plot, which was involved hijacking several planes at the same time, and then blowing them up over the Pacific? Had the plot not been busted, this would have happened in early summer 1995, six years and three months before 9/11. So your notion that al-Qa'idah had no prior experience in planning hijackings of airliners is rubbish.
Comment Posted By Frank IBC On 23.08.2007 @ 09:54
I think the "cleanly cut steel" that Hans and others are babbling about are the thousands and thousands of steel beams that were in the pile of rubble.
During the collapse, these beams were separated from the rest of the structure when the bolts/welds/etc. which joined them to the structure failed during the progressive collapse, as they were weaker than the beams themselves. The beams were in one piece, not "cleanly cut".
Comment Posted By Frank IBC On 23.08.2007 @ 08:36
Here's a gem from Alex Jones, the proprietor of prisonplanet and infowars - the favorite of our Troofer wacko visitors:
Comment Posted By Frank IBC On 23.08.2007 @ 07:51He told the History Channel that Galileo got persecuted when he told people that the Earth was round instead of flat. "I'm telling people the world is round!" he exclaimed.
a weight-driven collapse would take more than ten seconds
Not really. The time it takes an object to fall the height of the WTC towers would be 9 seconds.
Comment Posted By Frank IBC On 22.08.2007 @ 23:15
