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9/11 TRUTHERS GUT PUNCHED BY HISTORY CHANNEL

And one more thing, David. As has been pointed out repeatedly, the fire was NOT hot enough to MELT steel prior to the collapse, just hot enough to weaken it enough such that it could no longer support the weight above it.

Comment Posted By Frank IBC On 24.08.2007 @ 11:46

Sorry, bad formatting on my previous - in the third blockquote, the first paragraph (my words) should be outside of it.

if a building you were in caught fire it would melt to the ground and pulverize to dust in less than 10 seconds?

You folks really do seem to have trouble holding multiple concepts in your minds simultaneously. I'll recap...

1) Collision with building at 400-550 mph, seriously weakening support structure
2) Thousands of gallons of kerosene ignited instantaneously and burning (along with various and sundry building materials, furniture, etc.) for an hour to an hour and a half
3) Millions of tons of concrete and steel, subject to gravity

Comment Posted By Frank IBC On 24.08.2007 @ 11:42

Frank IBC, “The planes that crashed into the towers were flying at 400 mph and over 500 mph, respectively.” How do you know how fast the planes were going?

Ha ha... this is hilarious.

The second one was going thru a curve, so we’d expect it to be slower.

"Slower"? Slower than what? Why would it be "expected to be slower"?

Also, it hit the corner of the tower, largely missing the core columns.

Gravity throws steel beams 500 feet sideways?

Yes, if said beam is deflected by any other object (including air), when falling in excess of 100 mph.

About the molten metal in the rubble: maybe it wasn’t “molten” but what would explain it even being red-hot?

Again, you are assuming that the fire reached its peak temperature shortly after the fireball, rather than continuing to rise in the hours, days, and weeks after the collapse. What is the basis for your assumption? And following your assumption, for the sake of argument, how would the (supposed) presence of thermite, and nothing else, account for this?

Comment Posted By Frank IBC On 24.08.2007 @ 11:34

Sorry for all the replies, my comments keep getting eaten

Are you using Tab, Enter? That will just take you back to the homepage, it won't post the comment.

Comment Posted By Frank IBC On 24.08.2007 @ 11:15

If fire couldn't melt steel, then there would be no way to manufacture steel.

Comment Posted By Frank IBC On 24.08.2007 @ 11:05

Preparation for implosion of a typical 10-15 story high rise building takes about six weeks, IIRC.

And it doesn't just include installation of the charges. It includes clearing out the floors and strategically weakening some or even all of the columns. And it also includes detonating individual charges to test the strength of the columns.

Comment Posted By Frank IBC On 24.08.2007 @ 11:05

And assuming that they actually could have secretly installed all 100,000 charges, there is no way they could have hidden all the necessary wiring from the public.

Comment Posted By Frank IBC On 24.08.2007 @ 11:02

It’s Wirt D. Walker III. Google him and securacom.

If you're the one that's making the claim, shouldn't you be the one doing the Google search?

Comment Posted By Frank IBC On 24.08.2007 @ 11:00

The towers had 110 floors and 47 central support columns.

At an absolute minimum, "implosion" of this structure would have required 2 charges ("shaped charges") per column per floor, or a total of almost 100,000 individual charges. And that's only for the central support columns, and does not account for the outer frame or the horizontal trusses under each floor.

Comment Posted By Frank IBC On 24.08.2007 @ 10:57

What is it about you Troofers and your obsession with videos? Can't you actually write anything in your own words?

Hans -

I find no mention of any "Wirth Walker", anywhere on the Internet. He seems to be yet another figment of your imagination.

Comment Posted By Frank IBC On 24.08.2007 @ 10:35

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