Comments Posted By Frank IBC
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9/11 TRUTHERS GUT PUNCHED BY HISTORY CHANNEL
It was not "impossible", just extremely difficult under the old system.
And can you tell me how long it took the planes that tracked Payne Stewart's doomed flight, to reach that plane?
I was sitting among the 12 in that jury, I would convict.
Wrong, you would vote to convict. But I seriously doubt that any of the other 11 would.
Comment Posted By Frank IBC On 15.09.2007 @ 09:47
BTW, I'm still waiting for him to mention Payne Stewart.
Comment Posted By Frank IBC On 14.09.2007 @ 23:53
there were military exercises mimicking exactly the events of the day
WTF are you babbling about?
Comment Posted By Frank IBC On 14.09.2007 @ 23:51
There are several reasons why the incidents in the articles to which you link are not relevant. First and foremost, all of these incidents occured AFTER 9/11, when the air defense systems of the NATO countries had prepared for such threats.
Second, all of these incidents involved planes crossing national borders - as I said previously, all of the 9/11 planes were hijacked from US airports, therefore they were already within US borders - prior to 9/11, the air defense systems were designed to intercept ONLY FLIGHTS ORIGINATING OUTSIDE US BORDERS.
Third, none of the articles to which you link state the amount of time that it took to intercept the flights.
Fourth, while radio contact was lost, the transponders on the 9/11 planes were deliberately turned off. There was therefore no way to track the planes using the existing system. Prior to 9/11, no planes had flown within US borders with their transponders deliberately turned off.
Comment Posted By Frank IBC On 14.09.2007 @ 21:16
Also, Bolinger - can you tell us at what point it became known that Flight 77 was heading towards the Pentagon?
Comment Posted By Frank IBC On 14.09.2007 @ 16:04
Bollinger -
Can you cite any previous instance in which a plane which originated inside the United States, which posed a grave threat to the security of the United States, was shot down by the armed forces of this country?
Comment Posted By Frank IBC On 14.09.2007 @ 14:23
If I drive a car and cause an accident, for what ever reason, am I not responsible? Do I not have to pay some sort of penalty? Of course.
But Dick Cheney wasn't flying any of the four planes - that was Mohammed Atta and his gang.
Comment Posted By Frank IBC On 14.09.2007 @ 14:20
Bolinger's argument can be summed up thus:
"Who needs evidence? Faith is all that matters."
Comment Posted By Frank IBC On 13.09.2007 @ 15:40
I think that one fundamental problem these folks have is they can't grasp the possibility that disasters like this were caused by a series of events or states that were a necessary condition for the disaster to occur, but that none of those alone was a SUFFICIENT condition for the disaster. They can only visualize a single event or condition that is both a necessary AND a sufficient condition for such a disaster.
On a much less serious note:
Nicholas Borrillo -- Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.) on 23rd floor of North Tower:
Then we heard a rumble. We heard it and we felt the whole building shake. It was like being on a train, being in an earthquake. A train is more like it, because with the train you hear the rumbling, and it kind of like moved you around in the hall.Paul Curran -- Fire Patrolman (F.D.N.Y.) North Tower:
I went back and stood right in front of Eight World Trade Center right by the customs house, and the north tower was set right next to it. Not that much time went by, and all of a sudden the ground just started shaking. It felt like a train was running under my feet.Joseph Fortis -- E.M.T. (E.M.S.) T]he ground started shaking like a train was coming...
Keith Murphy -- (F.D.N.Y.) [Engine 47] I hear someone say oh, s___, that was just for the lights out. I would say about 3, 4 seconds, all of a sudden this tremendous roar. It sounded like being in a tunnel with the train coming at you.
Timothy Julian -- Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.) [Ladder 118] You know, and I just heard like an explosion and then cracking type of noise, and then it sounded like a freight train, rumbling and picking up speed, and I remember I looked up, and I saw it coming down.
The smoke from the towers was described as "being like the smoke from the smokestake of a locomotive".
Comment Posted By Frank IBC On 12.09.2007 @ 15:05
You remind me of Voltaire’s story about the Brahman and the washer woman. He is tormented by questions where she hasn’t a care in the world. He is amazed at her ability to be so free of thought and wonders if that freedom is worth the intellectual cost.
Isn't it funny how he thinks that "thought" and "logic" are two different things?
Comment Posted By Frank IBC On 30.08.2007 @ 08:25
