If the US government had done a "controlled demolition", it would have looked a lot like this.Comment Posted By Frank IBC On 15.09.2007 @ 17:52
Ooops, it did it again - text between two successive dashes automatically "striken". Weird.Comment Posted By Frank IBC On 15.09.2007 @ 17:46
Yes, there were a lot of "firsts" on 9/11.
-First successful hijacking of a US airliner flying within the borders of the USA since 1979.
-First time that boxcutters were used as a hijacking weapon. Boxcutters had been allowed in carry-on luggage up to that point - in my previous job, we carried boxcutters to meetings so that we could unpack our equipment the moment we arrived at the meeting site.
-First time more than one plane was hijacked in the same day, let alone the same hour.
-First time that a plane itself was used as a weapon.
-First time that a jet plane flying near full speed (and well above the recommended speed for the altitude) , and fully loaded with kerosene, was flown into a skyscraper.
-First time that the transponders on a commercial airliner were deliberately and maliciously turned off during flight over the USA.
-First time that a plane that represented a threat to the citizens of the USA originated within the USA.
And many more...Comment Posted By Frank IBC On 15.09.2007 @ 17:45
You accuse me of religious thinking. What is religious thinking other than relying on the testimony of revered individuals, past or present. No, I think the argument for religion is firmly lodged at your door, not mine.
Sorry, but you do exactly what you are accusing me and others of doing, in reverse - you arbitrarily and totally disregard evidence because it is put forth by people who you "un-revere".Comment Posted By Frank IBC On 15.09.2007 @ 16:48
Why is it so hard to understand the concept that direct evidence can REFUTE circumstantial evidence?
And why can't you answer my simple question in #365?Comment Posted By Frank IBC On 15.09.2007 @ 16:44
If you are going to continue to babble about "failure to intercept", then you had damn well better to come up with a scenario in which you are somehow able to track the four hijacked planes among the other 4500 identical blips.Comment Posted By Frank IBC On 15.09.2007 @ 15:53
I have come to realize that there is sufficient circumstantial evidence to merit a trial of some sort.
No, you have simply made up your mind that it was all done by the government, and you refuse to acknowledge the abundance of direct evidence that contradicts your hair-brained scenarios. Yours is a religious belief, not arrived at through careful thought.Comment Posted By Frank IBC On 15.09.2007 @ 15:51
So how would you have sought the hijacked planes among 4500 identical blips, Bolinger?Comment Posted By Frank IBC On 15.09.2007 @ 13:38
Comment Posted By Frank IBC On 15.09.2007 @ 10:16
On 9/11 there were only 14 fighter jets on alert in the contiguous 48 states. No computer network or alarm automatically alerted the North American Air Defense Command (NORAD) of missing planes. "They [civilian Air Traffic Control, or ATC] had to pick up the phone and literally dial us," says Maj. Douglas Martin, public affairs officer for NORAD. Boston Center, one of 22 Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) regional ATC facilities, called NORAD's Northeast Air Defense Sector (NEADS) three times: at 8:37 am EST to inform NEADS that Flight 11 was hijacked; at 9:21 am to inform the agency, mistakenly, that Flight 11 was headed for Washington (the plane had hit the North Tower 35 minutes earlier); and at 9:41 am to (erroneously) identify Delta Air Lines Flight 1989 from Boston as a possible hijacking. The New York ATC called NEADS at 9:03 am to report that United Flight 175 had been hijacked â€” the same time the plane slammed into the South Tower. Within minutes of that first call from Boston Center, NEADS scrambled two F-15s from Otis Air Force Base in Falmouth, Mass., and three F-16s from Langley Air National Guard Base in Hampton, Va. None of the fighters got anywhere near the pirated planes.
Why couldn't ATC find the hijacked flights? When the hijackers turned off the planes' transponders, which broadcast identifying signals, ATC had to search 4500 identical radar blips crisscrossing some of the country's busiest air corridors. And NORAD's sophisticated radar? It ringed the continent, looking outward for threats, not inward. "It was like a doughnut," Martin says. "There was no coverage in the middle." Pre-9/11, flights originating in the States were not seen as threats and NORAD wasn't prepared to track them.
Actually, you wouldn't have made it on to the jury in the first place, since you've already made up your mind as to what the verdict would be, in the absence of any evidence.Comment Posted By Frank IBC On 15.09.2007 @ 10:13