But in this case, I think you are flat out wrong about the psychology of patriotism, as well as the language.
For a true scientific study of both sides and the reality of how patriotism is viewed based on genetics, check out the TED talk by Johathan Haidt. It's brilliant.Comment Posted By Chuck Tucson On 17.04.2009 @ 12:59
I'm not sure which is worse. Worshiping at the alter of government, or worshiping at the alter of the corporation. In both cases you're worshiping.Comment Posted By Chuck Tucson On 15.04.2009 @ 14:00
If the protest was against taxes, why not refuse to pay them, like the draftcard-burners? In the Colonies, dumping the tea made perfect sense. Now, I just don’t get it.
Refusing to pay them would constitute a real protest. Not this johnny-come-lately wussified nonsense. Nothing like the current joke. Watching them grovel at the feet of the very people who destroyed the system in the first place is embarrassing. Again, where were these protest eight years ago when they might have actually amounted to something? Like it or not retire05, you are the reason we have Obama right now. You only have yourselves to blame.Comment Posted By Chuck Tucson On 15.04.2009 @ 23:10
Can’t you find some “positive” way to channel your anger? Just what is your definition of “rich”, and who are the “stupid” people? Bitterness and apathy are most unattractive qualities in a man.
I wouldn't be bitter and apathetic if real conservatism hadnt died a horrible death and taken the country with it during the past administration. By all accounts, we should be living in a goddamned conservative utopia right now, but NO, republicans failed spectacularly, and in the end that failure lead the the current nightmare with Obama.
So yeah, I'm bitter. You guys had the entire country, every last bit of power needed, and THIS is the result. Obama is the result. And I'm supposed to rally my support for this idiotic Tea Party nonsense that started 8 years too late? I don't care anymore if the people who failed so pathetically get taxed more. Let's call it the "you failed America" tax, and be done with it. Because that's what happened.
And NOW you're trying to fix it? Now all of a sudden you're in a hurry? Watching you guys try to protest, when all you know how to do is mock protesters and laugh when the cops beat up the hippies is a complete joke. It's the people who put you into this position in the first place laughing all the way to the bank, again.Comment Posted By Chuck Tucson On 15.04.2009 @ 12:52
Regardless of your political affiliation, you should be a supporter too, Chuck.
Yeah, I was a supporter 8 years ago when it might have made a difference. Where the hell were any of you?Comment Posted By Chuck Tucson On 15.04.2009 @ 11:40
The Tea Party protest is a classic case of rich people buying stupid people in order to manufacture a movement that will only benefit themselves. It's disorganized simply because they haven't needed to do it in a while and they're a bit rusty.Comment Posted By Chuck Tucson On 15.04.2009 @ 10:54
The president refuses to call radical Islamists who blow themselves up terrorists,
citation needed.Comment Posted By Chuck Tucson On 14.04.2009 @ 14:05
ChuckTucson, perhaps you would like to give us a list of names of people whose civil rights have been violated by illegal wiretapping?
Anyone who's internet communication information has been routed through an AT&T hub since approximately late 2001. Just because you don't understand it, doesn't mean it's not happening.
Not just your standard crap that it has happened. Names. Dates. Convictions obtained for the violation of an individual’s civil rights obtained by the ACLU?
I'm not doing your googling for you. If you're really interested, see:
Jewel v. NSA
Hepting v. AT&T (class action)
Did you have the same reservations when the Eschelon Program was in force? Or are you one of those liberals when asked about the Eschelon Program says “What? What program? Never heard of it.”?
Of course. Furthermore, just because a person is a civil liberties advocate, doesn't make them a liberal. Your logic is full of fail.
I am sure you are not going to see rioting in the streets...
Maybe we should. Throw some tea into the water retire05, it's part of the foundation of the country.
I am not going to be marginalized. I am one person, speaking my voice, exercising my First Amendment rights. I have never tried to deny the left the same right.
You marginalize yourself by saying "And if the NSA wants to listen to me bitch about the cost of my uninsured motorist insurance... they are free to do it."
No, actually they aren't free to do it. The fact that you don't care if they do is disturbing and demonstrates a lack of foresight and an ignorance of your own basic rights.
Perhaps you should get off the internet, Chuck. I am sure you are being monitored by the evil Bush regime. Oh, wait, Bush is no longer out of office, so if you are being monitored, there must be another force behind it.
The Obama Administration has claimed that the government cannot be held accountable for illegal surveillance under any federal statutes. This is a horrible step that trumps what the Bush administration started, and for you to dismiss it out of hand is telling of the fact that you don't comprehend what's happening all around you. Obama is even worse than Bush, and you mock me and advocate his position without even realizing it. All you see is red vs. blue.Comment Posted By Chuck Tucson On 14.04.2009 @ 10:47
It doesn't matter how much you want them to hear you bitch and moan, it's still pathetic to watch you not care about your own civil liberties.
The irony of watching the right re-examine the left on how to protest effectively is astonishing. Dear left wing terrorists, can you give us some pointers on how to protest something? We haven't done it in decades, so we're a bit rusty. I can't wait to hear the sound bites form the tea parties.
It's going to be interesting to see how you deal with being marginalized and completely ignored by the very same people you marginalized and completely ignored.Comment Posted By Chuck Tucson On 14.04.2009 @ 09:44
It's amazing how few on the right seemed to see this coming. Though nearly as dramatic, it definitely reminds me of Pastor Martin Niemoller's famous poem that's etched in stone in the New England Holocaust Memorial. Adapt it any way you want, but it still boils down to the same thing in the end...
"In Germany, they came first for the Communists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist;
And then they came for the trade unionists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist;
And then they came for the Jews, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew;
And then . . . they came for me . . . And by that time there was no one left to speak up."Comment Posted By Chuck Tucson On 14.04.2009 @ 09:10