Bald Ninja said:
I’d agree with you if you define sides as Republicans and Democrats.
Though I do think there are several Republican proposals on how to improve healthcare that seem like really good ideas (that don’t increase the influence and involvement of government and don’t cost more money).
I agree, and a few of them I sorta like, are these:
H.R. 502, the Health Care Freedom of Choice Act
H.R. 1470, the Equity for Our Nation's Self-Employed Act of 2009
H.R. 2360, the SHOP Act
H.R. 1763, the Responsible Reinvestment Act of 2009
Unfortunately though they don't really come close to addressing the overall malfunction of the health insurance industry. They just sorta patch the current situation a bit here and there.
Look, the anger I've seen at the townhalls seems short sighted and ignorant. It's easy to get people fired up over stuff they don't fully understand. Just like that idiot lady waving her birth certificate around. The problem is very very complicated and talking points (from both sides) can't even come close to doing it justice.
If the current private insurance system was adequate, then we wouldn't be having this discussion. But, that system is designed to serve only itself (not necessarily by serving it's clients either as one might argue, I have great experience with this).
There is a solution, and private health insurance isn't it. That's why they are fighting so hard and throwing so much money around. They're scared because they suck and everyone knows it. Business that suck are destined to fail. It's the American way.Comment Posted By Chuck Tucson On 6.08.2009 @ 14:55
Chuck, prove it, and I’ll sign up with the Kook-in-chief.
What would be acceptable proof? There are mountains of data available for public perusal regarding the amount of money the health insurance industry has thrown at what is a threat to their way of life. Not to mention hour upon hour of congressional testimony from industry insiders and whistleblowers.
Would any of that help? Tens of millions lionheart. That's power. That's influence. But what it isn't, it helpful to the people of this country.
As long as I live, I will never cease to be shocked at the astounding hypocrisy of liberals. Clear evidence was presented that proved left wing astroturfing during the campaign, and liberals endorsed it. Now, simply the suggestion that the right is engaging in a tactic (which has the stamp of approval by liberals) has you up in arms.
I am not a liberal. Astoundingly, I think both sides are full of bloviating money tossing douchebags who are not fixing the problem.Comment Posted By Chuck Tucson On 6.08.2009 @ 12:13
Of course. It would be insane to think that corporations standing to lose lots of money would pump tens of millions of dollars into doing everything possible to influence people in their favor.
This is America, that would never happen. People who believe in such nonsense are crazy. Let's come up with clever names like "Kook-in-Chief" in order to marginalize and belittle them.Comment Posted By Chuck Tucson On 6.08.2009 @ 10:37
You also usually seem to be on the side of more freedoms instead of less - explain to me how putting government in charge of your healthcare decisions isn’t an infringement on your freedoms.
Employer sponsored private health insurance is one of the worst possible ideas ever devised. It goes far beyond my personal battles with these insurance corporations. Corporations that I pay very large amounts of money to serve me, not to try to figure out ways of dropping me and my family.
It stifles personal freedom and entrepreneurship as well, decreasing the potential of the so called American Dream. People are locked in to this employer sponsored insurance, and they simply can't move to better themselves or their situation, because the risk of losing that coverage is so profound. Especially if they are unlucky enough to have a preexisting condition.
People will pay health insurance premiums before they will pay their mortgage, because if they don't their lives could be ruined by health care costs. The shattered lives of these people aren't isolated incidents. They are coast to coast. The system is awful and broken, or we wouldn't be talking about it right now.
At some point in everyone's life they WILL have a preexisting condition. What then? There is no possible way I can be convinced that the government can do a worse job than Aetna, Blue Cross, or Cigna which are basically the same horrible corporation, with Cigna being the most evil of the bunch. These are the ones I've had personal experience with.
The best part about my experience is that I have the best health coverage you can buy in this country, and I STILL have to deal with mountains of bullshit.
So yeah, keep telling me how good I have it. While you're busy doing that, I'll sit on hold while my customer service representative tries to figure out how tell me they won't cover that test on a family member that my doctor says is needed.Comment Posted By Chuck Tucson On 5.08.2009 @ 09:28
Bald Ninja said:
You really believe that those of us who hate the idea of government run healthcare do it for the insurance companies or that those showing anger at townhall meetings are somehow insurance company plants?
I don't believe that the shouters are insurance company plants. They would never do something so completely stupid. The shouters are their own special kind of stupid.
Complaining that a inherently socialist concept like insurance - the collection of funds by many to redistribute to the needy - will somehow be more socialist if the government gets involved is laughable.Comment Posted By Chuck Tucson On 4.08.2009 @ 21:28
I too am concerned that these 'protesters' are going to negatively impact the bottom line of insurance corporations.
The only thing we need to be worried about here is that the primary beneficiary of the U.S. health care system (the insurance corporations) continue to make lots of money at great expense to my family.Comment Posted By Chuck Tucson On 4.08.2009 @ 16:16
The three most influential people in the GOP: Rush Limbaugh, Glen Beck and Orly Taitz.
Well played, Reynolds, well played.Comment Posted By Chuck Tucson On 3.08.2009 @ 23:45
The fact that Sarah Palin almost became vice president of the United States says nothing about Sarah or her ability to pwn. It says everything about the United States as a whole.Comment Posted By Chuck Tucson On 2.08.2009 @ 21:55
This entire piece could easily be said about private insurance. There is no difference.Comment Posted By Chuck Tucson On 31.07.2009 @ 09:23
I'm beginning to think that the entire United States Senate, and a good majority of House is literally employed by the health insurance corporations. Fucking cowards, every last one of them.Comment Posted By Chuck Tucson On 28.07.2009 @ 12:22