Comments Posted By CDOR
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Waterboarding has never been deemed illegal, even though congress had several opportunities to do so. To prosecute or even talk about prosecuting people who give well reasoned and researched legal advice to and at the behest of the POTUS, and especially during a time of war, and even more especially, shortly after we had just suffered the largest attack on American soil in the history of the nation, is absolutely the act of a narcissistic, banana republic, arrogant, and deceitful thug.
Surely, nobody would do such a thing, Rick. Why even bother speculating on the topic.
Comment Posted By cdor On 23.04.2009 @ 16:45
THE CONSERVATIVE CASE FOR GAY MARRIAGE
bs, I clicked on your link three times...amazingly it said the same thing every time I clicked. There is a 19 point spread against gay marriage. That is pretty strong. As far as a Constitutional ammendment against it, well I think it is futile and silly. If Republicans get on that horse, they deserve rebuke.
But here I am knee deep in the obvious again, while you are subtlely exposing the ethereal.
Comment Posted By cdor On 23.04.2009 @ 06:49
I could concur with any supposition you would like to make, bs, but it stiil wouldn't make it fact. The fact is that every state that has either had a pro gay marriage or anti gay marriage popular vote has voted, mostly overwhelmingly, against gay marriage. Unless I am missing something very obvious, in my case, or, oh so subtle, in your case, society is not ready to amend the collective wisdom.
The louder and meaner Perez Hilton screams, the less support he and his compatriots will receive. If judges make it so...we are really going to have a problem.
Comment Posted By cdor On 22.04.2009 @ 13:12
bs, instead of talking about your couple of christian friends, how about documenting all of the states that have passed a popular vote supporting gay marriage?
I'll come back in a couple of days very interested in seeing your evidence.
Comment Posted By cdor On 21.04.2009 @ 19:53
No one said that faith was easy…
Now THERE is an absolute truth.
Comment Posted By cdor On 20.04.2009 @ 21:20
Thanks manning, I agree that the Ten Commandments could be viewed as Absolute. I would.
And I see no mention of homosexuality or gay marriage there. Perhaps I am missing something.
Comment Posted By cdor On 20.04.2009 @ 20:58
You said it yourself bs, it's in the constitution:
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
THAT is exactly what I am saying.
Thank you
Comment Posted By cdor On 20.04.2009 @ 19:00
If I, a father of three, want to marry my daughters, and I can find a church to sanctify this marriage in front of god, why shouldn't I be married?
Tell me bs, why shouldn't I?
Comment Posted By cdor On 20.04.2009 @ 18:56
You are correct, manning, it is moral relativity when the majority of society determines what is right and wrong. But then, what determines right and wrong if not the majority of society? Is it the King? Or is it God? Rick doesn't believe in god, he believes in Atheism. What determines his moral compass? What about those that believe in God and that belief tells them that they should use women as breeding mares? Or so many other examples that need not be mentioned? And who or what determines the punishment for those that break the moral code? Isn't it society? For some it will be eventually another Sodom and Gamorah. Maybe that is what has to happen, again.
For me, the absolute is try to do no harm. Isn't even The Golden Rule relative? "Do unto others as one would have others do unto you." Where is the absolute in that?
My experience tells me that gays are as wonderful and as evil as any other human being. I suspect that homosexuality has existed as long as heterosexuality.
I also believe in respecting the collective historical wisdom of society. That collective wisdom accumulates and grows. When society has determined that there is no longer a reason to differentiate between marriage, a long and loving relationship between Rick and his mate, or the same between a homosexual couple, I have no objection. That would be the evolution of the collective wisdom.
I do, however, object to imposing by judges, in this instance, of re-defining marriage. Gays are not subjected to pain and suffering or the forced labor of slavery. Rick, for example, is in a long and loving heterosexual relationship. He is not impaired by not being able to marry.
Out of respect for those who as a majority of society believe otherwise, we need to wait. Let this move through the states slowly and see how it developes. Let the unforseen consequences be exposed. Then, if it is determined by society to be accepted...let it be.
Comment Posted By cdor On 20.04.2009 @ 17:52
bsjones, I believe you are correct when stating that the founders did have a concern for the tyranny of the majority. That is why our country is a democratically elected representative republic and not a pure democracy.
The original reason for having senators appointed by the states, rather than elected was to maintain the states soverignty against the federal governement (which they feared more than anything else). The people changed that by means set forth for change in the constitution itself. It is another subject whether or not that was a wise change indeed.You seem to have disdain for out constitution. I hope I have misinterpretted your language.
In any event, disdain or not, it is the supreme law of the land. Please where in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights does it say Gays have a right to get married?
I stated previously, if the courts determine this issue, it will necessarily open up the proverbial can of worms for all sorts of groups of people and things to "marry".
Extreme caution is warranted. Gays are not suffering, in the way of Negroes during slavery, or females not having suffrage. There is no need to rush. Let society adapt gracefully, give the change time, avoid the unwanted and unforseen consequences.
Comment Posted By cdor On 20.04.2009 @ 07:03
