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SOME OTHER THINGS THE "PEACE BELL" SHOULD BE TOLLING FOR
Nice job Rick. Many of these justifications for punishing the enemy and ending the war without a suicidal land invasion of the Jap homeland flashed before me as I read some articles about the remembrance in Hiroshima and interviews with the surviving Enola Gay flight crew. It's a pity that the War on Terror can not be dramatically terminated in simalar fashion.
Comment Posted By Bergbikr On 6.08.2005 @ 16:07
THE MARYHUNTER WEIGHS IN ON ID
There is a big problem with polemic between Creationism and Evolutionism - antagonists simply can't reach one another across a logical chasm. Evolution involves the science of biology, which utilizes experimental tools of prediction, observation and verification to build a theoretical construct. Creation inhabits the world of religious faith and philosophy, activities of the mind.
But it is possible to think outside the box and encompass both realities. To illustrate, I quote my previous post on this premier site:
"I remember well decades ago when a fundamentalist Christian type of colleague (patent lawyer) and I, a Catholic and Caltech bred chemical engineer, went backpacking in the high Sierra. Imagine racking out in sleeping bags, looking up into the stars and discussing Creationism vs. Evolution. I drove him nuts positing the reasonableness of both – concurrently. “Not in the Bible,†sayeth he. OK, sez I, but God is a clever Guy and imagine the elegance of setting Creation up like a big ol’ partial differential equation. Set the Initial Conditions (Big Bang?) and the Boundary Conditions (daren’t presume here) and let the equation run through time – but maybe, here ‘n’ there, perturb the system with a shot of self-consciousness and eventually ‘soul.’ That is elegance!"
The MaryHunter cited my reference to Teilhard above and I continue the quote and expand on this remarkable man:
"A French Jesuit-Scientist, Pierre Teilhard de Chardin was able to capture these concepts in a marvelous fusion of evolutionary science (paleontology) and theologically informed philosophical speculation. His seminal work is “The Phenomenon of Man.â€
"This work outlined a sweep of ongoing creation, of a developing universe. In particular, he speculated on the progression of an inanimate earth to the generation of simple life and then the growth of cognition and finally the ultimate complexity of spiritualization. From alpha to omega, Himself (Herself?). This is indeed the flight of time’s arrow, pointedly urging onward the upright ape, scampering up-slope to human heights and embracing ultimately the Beatific Vision and union of all creation with God. Now, that is quite a mouthful and mindful!"
Unfortunately atheists and agnostics deprive themselves of this big picture.
Comment Posted By Bergbikr On 6.08.2005 @ 11:31
THE ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY, VERY, VERY, LAST THING I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT ID AND EVOLUTION
Excellent Post and equally excellent set of comments - Kudos to y'all.
From all this sturm und drang one can conceive of a coordinate from Creationism out to Scientific Evolution to visualize our developmental past. Then in between somewhere drop in Intelligent Design as an attempt to patch up differences and smooth the transitional bump. No wait, that doesn't work very well -- different categories of concepts and embarrassing contradictions. !@#$%^&*
OK start again. Problem is we're mostly dealing with folks who essentially believe the Genesis Creation story (and there are other such 'myths') while rejecting the secular mutterings of Evolution 'Theory.' OR We are seeing the Science of Evolution (within Biology) churning along the experimental route while discounting as childish those religious nuts' beliefs. Intelligent Design really can't bridge this gap, indeed only intensifies the gulf.
My experience: I remember well decades ago when a fundamentalist Christian type of colleague (patent lawyer) and I, a Catholic and Caltech bred chemical engineer, went backpacking in the high Sierra. Imagine racking out in sleeping bags, looking up into the stars and discussing Creationism vs. Evolution. I drove him nuts positing the reasonableness of both - concurrently. "Not in the Bible," sayeth he. OK, sez I, but God is a clever Guy and imagine the elegance of setting Creation up like a big ol' partial differential equation. Set the Initial Conditions (Big Bang?) and the Boundary Conditions (daren't presume here) and let the equation run through time - but maybe, here 'n' there, perturb the system with a shot of self-consciousness and eventually 'soul.' That is elegance!
A French Jesuit-Scientist, Pierre Teilhard de Chardin was able to capture these concepts in a marvelous fusion of evolutionary science (paleontology) and theologically informed philosophical speculation. His seminal work is "The Phenomenon of Man."
This work outlined a sweep of ongoing creation, of a developing universe. In particular, he speculated on the progression of an inanimate earth to the generation of simple life and then the growth of cognition and finally the ultimate complexity of spiritualization. From alpha to omega, Himself (Herself?). This is indeed the flight of time’s arrow, pointedly urging onward the upright ape, scampering up-slope to human heights and embracing ultimately beatific holiness and the union of all creation with God. Now, that is quite a mouthful and mindful!
And get this, boys and girls, we see here no animosity between Creation and Evolution, but by thinking outside the box Teilhard de Chardin has encompassed both and taken them to a higher level. Unfortunately atheists and agnostics deprive themselves of the big picture.
Comment Posted By Bergbikr On 4.08.2005 @ 11:14
A WAR AGAINST MORAL EQUIVALENCY
Some of these posts indicate a serious lack of reading comprehension by their authors. We're dealing with two (or more) planes of thinking here, the caterwauling left-lib-lilliputian commentators and the eloquent, well reasoned exposition of the subject post's author.
Nice job, Rick. Loved it!!
Comment Posted By Bergbikr On 8.07.2005 @ 11:52
Hey Rick, That's a pretty chilling post. There are lots of bad guys lurking out there; Ebola, Marburg, Hansa and a dozen I haven't heard of. Recently someone with pet rodents dies and donated some body parts to some poor souls who succumbed to a animal virus present in the tissue. Pity.
Regards to Terry who admitted to Hugh Hewitt (I believe) that the media was anti-military, anti-war and therefore, by inference, liked to prune Shrub.
Comment Posted By Bergbikr On 26.05.2005 @ 15:18
